White privilege is a lie... anyone who says otherwise is trying to subjugate you. At least in the US.

 

I wonder how much better life would be with out the internet....

 

I think that the most important thing in anyone's life is to hate the people who's now-dead ancestors did something bad to your own now-dead ancestors. Without this kind of hate in the world, where would we be as humans?

 

So anyway... White Privilege does NOT mean that you feel more privileged or at an advantage over anyone else (any other race). In fact if anything, it is a state of being oblivious to the differences. Now that may sound like a positive as though the individual sees all races the same, yet it is not (and more on why in a moment). It is actually more akin to "let them eat cake," or an extreme ignorance of the situation of others, in this case hardships of race.

In case you don't understand that phrase, "let them eat cake (brioche, a very high quality/luxury bread)" comes from a tale of a great princess who was informed that the peasants were starving to death (while the wealthy lived in extremely excessive opulence), that they had no bread. Her response was "then let them eat cake." Some taking that as though she didn't care, yet more than likely that she was simply so ignorant to the fact that someone might not have food, so in her mind, and due to her "privilege" the answer was simple. If you don't have bread (that moment) then eat the cake instead unable to fathom that someone might have neither....In China there is a similar and older tale attributed to Emperor Hui. "An ancient Chinese emperor who, being told that his subjects didn't have enough rice to eat, replied, 'Why don't they eat meat?'" IOW, so oblivious to other people that he couldn't understand how when you didn't even have the most basic food staple, how that meant you had nothing.

In any case, white privilege speaks of how white people often cannot empathize with the hardships of other races, in this case in America. Not so much that they don't care, yet that they don't/can't understand not having lived being non-white. Now some will try and tell you that "poverty level whites have it just as hard, and feel the same." That is absolutely untrue. Whites living in poverty feel like they got a raw deal, ripped off, screwed, didn't get the breaks others did and so on... Yet they only feel that way in that they feel privileged, as though more is what they deserve just like everyone else. So they feel basically equal to other whites/people, but were simply fucked over for X reason(s). IOW, have the same opportunity as all others, but were cheated of it...BUT...it can be fixed or changed.

Other non-white races ARE treated different. Sometimes even better, yet when treated better it as though it is some magnanimous gift by whites toward someone who is less than them. As though to make them feel better, patronizing. Most times however they are treated in all ways as though less and different. Certainly not as deserving, and as though every positive in their life is a gracious gift, an exception getting more than they "actually" deserve. Other races are hit with that attitude be it through prejudice to even overcompensation to a point that they are made to feel different by white culture. They're made to feel it every day of their lives, and in every avenue of it......ALTHOUGH, it is not always intentional.

Here is a GREAT ad from "Viceland" channel that shows how it shifts mindsets and how it forces those non-white to think differently. At times justified, at other times not, yet they still feel it.



I myself have actually experienced this all of my life being 50%+ Native American. I had it drilled into me by my father that I was less. By the community we lived in (and to top it off he was white trash so that made it even worse). Years later once back in the states I was assumed to be Mexican so I received that prejudice and attitudes from whites, also because of how dark I used to tan, black, east-Indian, middle-eastern, polynesian, and so on. Due to my narrow facial features and almond shaped eyes however I've been asked if I was half-breed Asian/black, Asian/white, Persian, Arabic, etc.. Though never white. Conversely, when I lived out of the country I was treated as less by all others for two joined reasons. 1. I was an American. 2. I was not a white American... So even by other races and cultures I was treated as different and less because though I was an American, I was not a White American, so that made me some "less than everyone" race.

Finally, and this is a real kicker... Being a true half-breed, I'm even viewed as less by other Native Americans, though most of them are of mixed blood now themselves, just not first generation mixed blood.

The point of that being, I have always recognized that I was different (though not less), in fact a race of one. Where white privilege comes in is that others view me as different... Yet different does not mean equal. So, when I fuck up it was as though expected. When I succeed, it is as though I overcame my racial limitations. That may sound like easy street, yet in the end it states that though they may not consciously feel it, sub-consciously I am viewed as "less than", and though often not intentional, I'm often treated as such.

Where white privilege really comes in though is that state of ignorance. It's difficult to even impossible for those that have not lived like that everyday to understand why I might view things this way or that. Why I might take a helping hand as an insult, or take an insult as just par for the course. The worst of it is though, in that state of ignorance they cannot understand why others treat me somewhat differently. A friend of mine once stated that a server at a café/bar was likely just being more attentive to me because of the way I carry myself, and how I look (using the word attractive), and it worked out perfectly when I had her listen as the server spoke to another, telling the other "how great it was that I carried myself like anyone else, and then followed up with how she didn't want to offend me, or get me upset."

For what? I'm just sitting there having a drink! So how is it now that she has to be concerned about me over anyone else?

So white privilege speaks to the ignorance of white people to the daily experiences of those of another race, in a white dominated society, and how it affects them. We always hear about the prejudice, bigotry and violence. What we never hear about is the underlying feeling of most whites that they got the sweet end of the lollypop simply because of their race, and how that translates into a passive bios, and ignorance of why another feels singled out.

Hush....an alias

 

he'll no were not over privileged whites are pretty much the minority anymore everyone's mixed with something i don't know if I'm out of line but myself am not a racist I'm a separatist i don't believe in breeding outside my race now i have many friends of other ethnic backgrounds any family the same I've had sex with many different ethnic women just never had kids with one. hey you asked my opinion

 

No such thing as white priviledge? Cksp. I am at a loss for words. No the hell with that. There is and has been since long before the founding of this country a totality of white privelidge.cksp. Only white MEN were considered in the writing of the Constitution, and for the most only land owning free white men. People are sometime amazed that Thomas Jefferson wrote of all men being equal, and yet he was a slave owner. The reason is simple he did not consider blacks and anyone other than white men as being People. There was no conflict in his mind. That concept ruled period. And, I am sorry to say, that it still applies in many portions of our American society today. If it did not, then the average person would beat the hell out of every klansman that showed his true colors. As far as being a minority the non asian and non black population of America is 245 million out of a population of 324 million total people (77%) so fuck the "whites are a minority" notion.

Although I have some small amount of native American and even less black in my background I am 95+% descended from Europeans and am phenotypically white.

 

I am not a man.

I am a first spring time doe, with a sexxy red poka dot bow!!!

But when i'm all growed up then i will be a real boy!!!

 

LOL

MUCH better. For starters we wouldn't have so many idiots voting.

 

This is exactly the point William Styron makes when he makes the case that we have entered a culture of obligatory deference

 

My little Maltese, Sprout, is white from tip to toe. He is an Entirely White Poofball.

He is not a mere dog. He is a Canine and an Extraordinarily Privileged Dog.

 

And Pluto's not really a planet.

Still at it. How you go on so.

One thing puzzles me. I'm at a loss as to how all you doughnut heads think you know what color I am.

 

I guess I could just unhook it but for an old guy it sure brings the world to my living room couch....

In my lifetime there is not telling the 1000's of hours I have spent in the libraries and book stores in the cities I have lived...

Damn it is all right here now.....

 

I get a kick out of the people who will make several negative comments a day about a particular party, but as soon as someone mentions their party, they come out with the "hater" label.







Just LOOK at all the love the hippocrats are spreading across America this week.

 

I do not like the word genetics’ because it is another word that distant lover uses to blame people, not white, for their problems. I use historical linguistics to show how wrong all people are. Sin means faulty. The garden of Eden where everything was perfect, this is where our human rights come from. Only Jesus made the human mind and body more perfect. Right and Rights mean a linear line and is the direction our founders wanted humanity to take. Government, govern means steer in a direction and ment means action and makes it very clear, do no harm.

Racism is used to incite violence and is no different than yelling fire in a movie theater, criminal. The definition of Anti-Christ means lies, deception and ignorance. The word terror was created in 105B.C. and means any person or group that causes pain, suffering, fear is a terrorist, Anti-Christ. God means all knowing, knowledge and wisdom, TRUTH. I do not know when or who used the words God and Anti-Christ, in the Bible, but it seems to be clear what the problems are about around the world.

I use these words in the name of Albert Einstein, all theories should lend themselves to a description so simple that a *SPAM**SPAM**SPAM* child could understand.

 

Little deer thingy, You have been on this forum for about five years, so lets say that you were 13 when you started on the forum, you are now an adult in the eyes of the law. So drop the precious little darling facade, and come out from under mommy's apron or from behind daddies whatever, and behave as if you had been in school for the last 5 years and are no longer 13. Get your ass into college, and get the education you are so obviously lacking. 10 month old Spring time doe is now an old (for a deer) whatever the hell you are. Fantasy time is over, come out of the hollow tree, face the music and act like the adult you are supposed to be.

 

To be fair, and to osakibsl's point, I realize the natives did not cross the Bering 50,000 years ago. That's just the guesstimate you hear as a kid. It's also worth mention that his 22,000 year "correction" that he posted is probably not right either.

For that matter, I recall reading as a kid that Thor Heyerderhal (sp?) empirically proved the plausibility of a much older SOUTHERN migration from Oceania to Andalusia, using Stone Age technology.

But that's just nitpicking. Bitching about dates is just petulance that distracts from the essential point.

The fact that I was trying to make remains:

ALL people are savages who have squandered each and every gift ever granted to them, from a Seventh Day of Rest, all the way to pristine, uninhabited continents.


And I'll go one step further:

There is not a single person alive today-- not ONE-- irrespective of color or creed-- who does not owe his or her existence to ancestors who both perpetrated and survived incomprehensible carnage. We are ALL victims. And we are ALL savages. ALL of us.

 

You have such a defeatist attitude about the human ability to grow WHEN growth is required. Meso Americans got along just fine without the influence of Europeans, they had very complex political associations, (the first Articles of Confederation in America were based on indian principles) trade among various groups, cultural and phenotype differences, and good living conditions. When Europeans came to the new world they brought filth, disease, riding animals, and ferrous metals. They destroyed cultural patterns, written histories, civilizations, and millions of people. I don't know, or for that matter care if, you consider yourself a savage or not, but as for me and mine, we are modern, non-harmful to others, and kind people.

 

Thor Hyerdahl suggested and empirically proved that people from SOUTH AMERICA could have populated the Polynesian Islands You have it bass ackwards as usual.

By the way when are you going to MAN UP.

 

I know that. You're missing the point. When he did it, the Bering Strait crossing was dogma.

It no longer is.

Now it is thought that the south could have been independently colonized via a southern crossing, long before the North. In which case Heyerdahl's work would have new relevance in a way he could not have foreseen.

 

And "man up" about what? I'd forgotten about this thread. I'm only here because it popped up as I logged in. What are you going on about now?